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What I learned from Cheating on My Boyfriend About Men Who Fake Their Deaths


In the middle of reporting my book on death fraud, I got caught cheating on my boyfriend.

I'd been pursuing the question for years: can you disappear in the 21st century? I had interviewed dozens of devious characters—privacy consultants, fixers who forged death certificates, life-insurance fraudsters—and I thought they had taught me the most important thing about faking your death: how to cover your tracks. I just didn't know I would end up applying this lesson to my own illicit affair.

In my reporting, I had investigated all forms of digital footprints—IP addresses, pinging cell phones, surveillance cameras capturing your image at every turn. In accordance with what I had learned, I erased all the incriminating emails from my drafts, sent, and inbox folders. All but one, which blatantly outlined a plan for a rendezvous. I had deleted all call logs and texts. Except for those few phone calls I forgot about. 


 


Worst of all, I hadn't considered that you can still get busted in the most analog ways. So when my live-in boyfriend stumbled upon my most deranged lovelorn musings in a journal I had left out, it was evidence so anachronistic, so juvenile in its sloppiness, it hadn't occurred to me to better obscure it. Ink on paper was what tipped him off, spurring him to comb my phone and computer for traces of what else I'd left behind.

At this point in the story, armchair analysts will speculate that I wanted to get caught. Maybe in the grand cosmic scheme of things, some part of me did. My boyfriend and I had been together for six years and lived together for three. We shared a rating system based on New York City mayors ("Is this shirt Giuliani or Fooliani? Dinkins or Stinkins?") and had adopted a Jack Russell-Chihuahua mix. We'd both recently turned 30 and had vague plans for what our wedding might look like—a taco truck and lots of dancing—but no hard plans for when that might take place or what we envisioned for the future. We'd grown comfortably into something between friends, roommates, and canine co-parents, so deeply ensconced in each other's lives that imagining an alternative seemed impossible. 


 


But hurting the person I lived with for the happiest years of my life? Being thrown out of our home after he made his discovery? I had envisioned a slightly more graceful exit. The morning I left, the sun was just beginning to tinge the sky violet, and I walked away with our dog and a haphazardly packed suitcase of gym shorts and high heels.

For years, I had been interviewing men who had made great messes of their lives (pseudocide seems to be an almost universally male phenomenon—or maybe women do it just as much but don't get caught). Typically, when these guys get the idea to fake their deaths and then actually execute the plan, they are backed into a corner. They've cheated, they've lost millions of dollars of investor money, or they're attempting to shirk their debts to creditors by taking an easy way out. These are guys who make fools out of the family members who mourn them, who attempt to outsmart law-enforcement agents who are paid thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to search for bodies that never appear. And these guys often have a tidy excuse for why they've done it. I just couldn't get over the hubris it requires: to think that you can get what you want and get away with it at the same time.



* * *

I was at a writers' residency when I met him. He had been a favorite critic of mine for years, and I knew he lived nearby. I also knew he was married, and I had no other motive in mind (swear to goddess) when I shot him an email, asking for his literary insight. He drove over to the big white house that same afternoon, and we drank tea on the wraparound porch. The interview went well, my recorder and notebook out the whole time, though none of my notes made it into the book. He was, coincidentally, the precise demographic of the person most likely to fake his death: a middle-aged, middle-class, white, heterosexual man with a family. I felt pleased that I had met him, that I had made what might one day turn into a strong professional contact. I didn't think anything of it beyond that.

A few days later, he emailed me and suggested a walk. When he led me out to a sun-dappled field at the height of fall foliage and asked if he could kiss me, I probably shouldn't have been taken aback. I had been naïve enough to think that we would just be friends, that he could be interested in me as a platonic and intellectual equal. I made some resolution in my mind that this could be a litmus test that would help me figure out how I really felt about my boyfriend. We kissed. Looking back, it's painfully obvious that simply setting up the experiment gave me the answer I needed.

So we commenced what was intended to be a contained, three-week fling—one that would run the course of my residency. For him, a midlife crisis with an unthreatening nobody who would make him feel important. For me, a wildly affirming seal of approval that this person, who I thought was so brilliant, also thought I was at least a little brilliant.




While we were sneaking around, I found myself thinking a lot about a question I'd been asking since I'd begun my book. Where is the best place to disappear? While you'd think that a town out in the boondocks could get you good and gone, really, it turned out that the likelihood of running into someone you know was that much greater. We were always looking for places to hide.

***

I often shook my head at the people I interviewed, men who not only faked their death but also often philandered, and here I was, doing the exact same thing. Our affair was supposed to expire when I returned to my life and to my boyfriend in the city. But it didn't. The writer and I continued to see each other whenever he had to come to town. Though my dalliance lasted only six weeks before I got busted, I never thought I'd be someone for whom commitment would be a problem. I considered myself an honest person, with integrity. Now I was seeing how quickly those categories can crumble, and how it didn't happen out of malice. It just happened, through human weakness and self-absorption that I'd previously condemned.

I thought about a conversation I'd had with two private investigators in Manila, about the men they chased, men who faked their deaths because they had a girlfriend on the side, or a second family. "Why don't they just get a divorce?" I asked them. They joked that it was because the men were afraid of their wives. While I still contend that playing dead instead of dissolving a marriage is a bit extreme, I was beginning to understand. Inventing a new, separate self, while radical and deranged, is more appealing than confronting the mistakes the old self might have made.

What I had never been able to get my head around, though, is the way the fakers could compartmentalize their indiscretions. One father who had staged his death in a kayaking accident had determined that he didn't need to let his adult sons in on his plan because, as he explained to me, they were busy with their own lives and wouldn't miss him. Before I knew it, I was advancing the same rationalizations, a similar cockeyed logic to justify my cheating. I would be happier having this thing on the side, I thought, and also exceedingly guilty, so I would heap more affection onto my boyfriend. Everyone would benefit. How could I make out with another woman's husband? Simple. She was merely theoretical to me. A ghost. I absolved myself of responsibility in that department (save the pangs that popped up—serving Thanksgiving dinner to my family in our apartment, having drinks with my friends while constantly checking my phone for messages) more seamlessly than I felt comfortable with.

Keeping a secret always closes you in on yourself. But, as I had told the writer, I felt something expanding within me, too. I know now what it was. It was empathy. I saw for the first time how easy it is to continue making a mistake you know you are making. I could no longer look at the subjects in my book with the same derision. When I had gone astray, it closed off my relationship, but it eventually opened me up to a new honesty.

Privacy consultant Frank Ahearn had always called the death fakers who got caught "morons and idiots." I laughed along. But now I felt like both a moron and an idiot. "Learn from this," my boyfriend said when he told me to leave. I did learn. I learned just how hard it is to cover your tracks in the 21st century. I learned that I am not cut out for the sly skulking around that disappearing requires.

I also learned that you can hold two contradictory ideas in your head and that they don't cancel each other out. I loved my boyfriend. I felt love for the writer, too, or something like it. I wish I had stayed. I'm glad I got caught. And I didn't toggle between these ideas. I held them simultaneously.

Elizabeth Greenwood is the author of Playing Dead: A Journey Through the World of Death Fraud, which recently came out in paperback.
















What Cheating Can Do To Your Health


It doesn't take an expert to know that infidelity can send someone into an emotional tailspin—one that could take weeks, months, maybe even years to recover.

But new research suggests that the emotional impact of cheating can also have a negative carryover into our physical health.

According to a study published in the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships, the ways in which cheating can harm our physical health are in the "risky behaviors" that ensue. For some, it may manifest in alcohol or drugs. For others, it may take on a "self-improvement" guise (extreme exercise or disordered eating, for example)—habits that aren't much healthier if they teeter on the obsessive.

The good news is that there is a way to bounce back from cheating that won’t result in physical harm – but it all depends on your outlook.

The study shows that those who blamed their partner for the infidelity weren't as likely to partake in risky behaviors like alcohol, drugs and other means of self-sabotage. Meanwhile, those who did blame themselves were more likely to engage in these behaviors even if they chose to stay in the relationship.

Women are particularly guilty of placing the blame on themselves, note the researchers.

“This gender difference is consistent with previous research showing that women experience more distress after being cheated on,” the study’s lead researcher, M. Rosie Shrout, told PsyPost. “We think this is because women typically place higher importance on the relationship as a source of self and identity. As a result, women who have been cheated on might be more likely to have poorer mental health and engage in unhealthy, risky behavior because their self-perceptions have been damaged.”

While the study's participants were college-aged students, Shrout hopes to continue the research on marital relationships to see if the theory still applies when children and a mortgage are added to the equation.

The good news is that there is a way to bounce back from cheating that won’t result in physical harm – but it all depends on your outlook. You cannot take responsibility for another person's choices or behavior, and accepting that will make it easier to handle the pain that comes with infidelity. You've got this.

What Do YOU Think?
If you've ever been cheated on, do you think where you placed the blame affected the way you bounced back? What were some other helpful coping strategies for you? Tell us in the comments!













This One Factor Will Makes You 3(Three) Times More Likely To Cheat On Your Partner Based On Recent Study

This One Factor Will Makes You 3(Three) Times More Likely To Cheat On Your Partner Based On Recent Study

Scientists have found evidence that backs up the old "once a cheater, always a cheater" rule when it comes to staying faithful in relationships. 
Researchers from the University of Denver wanted to look at whether infidelity in a previous relationship was a risk factor for infidelity in the next relationships. To do this, they looked at 484 people in mixed-gender romantic relationships, and asked them about their sexual activities outside of their current relationship (whether they had been cheating or not) as well as whether they were suspicious their partners were cheating.
They then followed these people through from this relationship to their next relationship, to measure whether people who said they'd cheated in the first relationship went on to cheat in the next one.
The study, which followed them over a five-year period, found that people who cheated in their first relationship were three times more likely to cheat on their next partner than those who stayed faithful. 
The study, published in Archives of Sexual Behavior, also found that those who suspected their first partner of cheating were four times more likely to have suspicions that their next partner was cheating.
Strangely, people who knew for certain that their first partner had cheated, rather than just suspecting it, were twice as likely to report that their subsequent partner had also cheated.
The authors wrote that the study, aptly titled "Once a Cheater, Always a Cheater? Serial Infidelity Across Subsequent Relationships", showed that previous cheating was an important risk factor for infidelity in the next relationships. Basically, if they have cheated before, there's a much higher chance that they'll do it again. 
The psychologists controlled for demographic risk factors, and controlled for gender and marital status. So if they cheated in their first relationship with someone they weren't married to, they were still more likely to cheat in the second relationship even if they were married this time.
The authors acknowledged that the sample size was small, and that further study needed to be done, including research on other types of relationships than purely mixed-gender relationships. However, they hope that the study could lead to novel interventions to prevent serial infidelities in relationships.














14 Mostly Ignored Signs That You Are Being Cheated On


Most of us tend to give our partners the benefit of the doubt as far as fidelity goes. But the truth is, one in four relationships involves cheating, while only half of cheaters confess—which means that about one-eighth of the people in relationships are involved with someone who secretly isn't monogamous.
You probably know the obvious signs of cheating, like remaining on dating sites long after getting into a relationship or always coming home late without a solid excuse. But in order to really ID a cheater, it pays to watch for signs that aren't as overt.






Here are 13 indicators that your partner could be sneaking around behind your back:
1. Your relationship started off as an affair
There's some truth to the saying "once a cheater, always a cheater." John, 44, says he should've seen it coming when he got into a relationship with a married woman. "We were good in bed together, but she enjoyed being good in bed with others, too, apparently," he said.
2. They regularly accuse you of cheating
Beyond being classic projection, this tactic serves two purposes, says Healing Infidelity Coach Caroline Madden, LMFT. It puts you on the defense so you don't have the chance to consider the opposite possibility, and it makes them look so anti-cheating that they couldn't possibly do it to you. It could also be a genuine reaction to them realizing that since they got away with cheating, you probably could too.
3. They're taking out a lot of cash
Cheaters often use cash when they take their secret partners out so that their S.O.'s can't track where they've been, says Rhonda Milrad, founder and chief relationship advisor of Relationup. But if you share a financial account, what you can track is an spike in their ATM withdrawals.
4. They've suddenly got new sex moves
Of course, it's possible they've just been doing their research, so this alone is reason only to be glad they're learning new ways to please you. But other signs of cheating combined with a change in sex routine could mean they're picking up those new techniques from someone else, says Milrad.
5. They're suddenly hyper-critical of you
Cheaters will sometimes try to justify cheating by making their relationship out to be so bad that they had no choice, explains Madden. She typically sees this happen in situations where the cheater feels they're in love with their cheating partner, since they have a sense that their affair is happier than their relationship. "The usually nice guy acted super cold and mean and I had no idea why," says Katie*, 29. "I thought I did something wrong. Now, I understand that he was feeling an incredible amount of guilt and shame, and was taking it out on me by acting mean towards me."
6. Your typical relationship issues seem to suddenly disappear
Madden's clients are often surprised to find their partners are cheating because they thought everything was going well around the time the cheating started. But sometimes, the reason things are looking up is that the needs that weren't met in the relationship are being met elsewhere.
7. They're paying more attention to their looks
Once people feel secure in their relationships, they may put less effort into trying to look good for their partners. If your S.O. is once again hitting the gym, buying new underwear, or shaving, they could be back in that early stage with someone else, says Madden. Julie, 42, noticed her ex was spending a lot of time in the shower during his affair.
8. They forget what stories they've told you
If your partner frequently starts stories with, "Did I tell you this already?" it could mean they're having trouble keeping track of multiple confidants, says psychologist Colleen Long, PsyD.
9. They're confiding in you less
Becoming less inclined to discuss problems with you is a sign that your partner's been venting to someone else, says Long. Even if they're not sleeping with anyone else, this could point toward emotional cheating.
10. They keep strict tabs on your schedule
Lauren, 33, says her ex started to ask when she was coming home from work more often when he was cheating. Now, she sees he was trying to figure out when he and his cheating partner would have the place to themselves.
11. They have random new interests
"My ex had been content to listen to about eight songs, total, during our entire time together," Julie remembers. "A bunch of new CDs without any writing to identify their contents—and a sudden interest in a whole host of new music—was due to the influence of this new partner." Attachment to a particular place can especially be a giveaway: Julie's ex insisted on joining a gym because of a climbing wall when he didn't even climb. It turned out his secret girlfriend was a member.
12. Cheating was accepted in their family
Looking back, John thinks his ex's parents should've been a clue. "She came from a family where her mother and father both cheated on each other and she told me that," he says. "But her parents were still happily married. So they set an example for their daughter to follow."
13. They get irate when you try to confront them

Someone who hasn't cheated will likely have a good explanation for their suspicious behavior, reassure you, and do what it takes for you to feel safe. A cheater, however, may get defensive because you've blown their cover, says Milrad. "It is very common for cheaters to deflect responsibility and get irritated by your questions. They often try and shut you down and even criticize you for being too controlling or suspicious."









"I'm So Sure My Sister is Sleeping With My My Fiancé What Should I Do? "


Getting cheated on is devastating now matter who's involved. But envision someone you're planning to marry in two months cheating on you... with your sister. And if that's not enough to compound the trauma, imagine this all occurring right before Christmas. Um, yeah.

That's what happened to Redditor cheatingfiancee26, a 26-year-old woman who thought all was well in her five-year relationship until she stumbled upon Facebook chats between her 29-year-old fiancé and 24-year-old sister. In her view, the two of them weren't even all that close, so you can only imagine her shock when she discovered the messages.





In the thread, she writes that the chats contained "a ton of dirty texts, nudes, and messages to meet up. I was absolutely shocked when I saw this. It turns out whenever he tells me I'm going out with the boys,' he's really been f---ing my sister." She also adds, "He hadn't shown any signs of being unhappy or cheating, I mean we're getting married in two months for god's sakes! And my sister, our entire lives we've been so close to one another. She's the one who I rant to, spill all my secrets, get advice and support from, she even helped my fiancé propose to me! I just can't believe they would do this to me."


They were planning to go to her family's house for Christmas today, but she doesn't know if she can keep it together. (And really, who could blame her?)

Here's what some fellow Redditors advised her to do:

"Take back your holiday. Seriously, f--- trying to keep the peace. Tell your parents that your sister is f---ing your fiancé and that you will not spend Christmas with either of them. Offer screenshot proof. Make alternate plans for Christmas at a friend's house. Hold a boundary that you will not be around either of them. You will be 10 times more miserable if you try to hold out and have this fight after Christmas. You didn't ruin the holidays, they did." —Punky_Grifter

"That kind if betrayal by a stranger is bad, by a friend is worse, and by a sister is inconceivable. You're the one who deserves the home and the support system." —lnoral

"Another option would be to encourage' the sister to tell the parents what she's done. As in, If you don't admit your behavior to our parents (and don't sugar-coat it) I'm going to show them the proof.' If everybody (parents, sister, fiancé) knows you have the evidence and are prepared to present it, you probably won't have to." —PeakPredator

"The only time I would ever recommend not telling your folks the truth is if you thought there was a chance of reconciliation between you and him. But this isn't some drunken snog with a random girl. And if you don't tell them they're going to be full of awkward questions." —twistedpants

"Honestly, your parents deserve to know what's going on, so they can be there for you. Also, consider this: your sister didn't care an inch about your feelings or how this would impact her family. Your sister doesn't care about anyone other than herself OP. Why on earth should you consider her, especially since she has done nothing but take a giant crap on your heart and on your family? Seriously, tell your parents, if only so they can be properly informed on what's going on." —webbgirl88

"I'd screenshot everything, make two hard copies of it all, wrap each copy in the prettiest Christmas paper I could find, and have them each open their gifts at my parents' house in front of the family Christmas morning."—drunzae



"As painful and miserable as this is and is going to be for the next few weeks, please remember: you dodged a bullet, sister. You didn't marry a sociopathic cheater who would have undoubtedly ruined your life. He may ruin your Christmas, he's certainly going to f--k up your relationship with your sister (she sounds completely jealous of you, really, that's why siblings usually f--k spouses/partners of family members) ....but you didn't spend the next decade with some kind of creep who would have made you miserable, in the end. Time for a big discussion with your fiancé and your sister, if not an actual PowerPoint presentation. Time to call a counselor. Time for a heart to heart with your parents." *—Dorkypotato *So, does she confront her fiancé and sister now or hold off until after the holidays? What do you think she should do? Share in the comments.









I Love Cheating On My Husband Though He is Perfect in Every Way. I Can't Stop it


I've been married now for seven years. My husband is an amazing father and husband, and always gives his 110 percent in all he does. But I still seem to feel unhappy and unfulfilled. About two years ago, I began an affair, and my husband found out about 10 months in. Eventually I asked for a divorce, but he wasn't having it. He said he didn't want to give up so easily. Now we're working on our marriage and things are going well aside from the fact that I have continued the affair. I've tried on several occasions to stop but always end up giving in. I don't know how to handle this. We also have four children. I'm so confused. I do love and appreciate him, but still have an emptiness that he can't seem to fill.







It sounds like you were faced with a decision: Break up or make up. And you didn't really choose either. By working on the marriage and cheating on your husband, you haven't really committed either way. Now you've got to decide what you really want. Because if you keep cheating on him, he's not going to take it forever, and soon you're not going to have a choice. If this blows up in your face, adultery could adversely affect the settlement that results from an acrimonious divorce. Legal issues aside, a revealed affair could really shake up your relationship with your kids.
At the very least, you need to stop the affair soon so you can get some perspective on your marriage, even if it's just to remove the cloud of guilt hanging over you, which has got to make it hard to see your marriage clearly.
Maybe you desperately need to divorce, figure out how to co-parent your four children, and move on with your life. Maybe you're just plain unsatisfied with your husband and the difficulty of a divorce will be worth the life you find after marriage. Or maybe there's some other cause for your unhappiness.
I don't know what you should do, but I'll try to help you think through it. You say you're "unhappy and unfulfilled," but I can't tell why. Is it your husband, who you say is "an amazing father and husband" and treats you well? He could be a great guy but wrong for you — even if you have made a family with four children together. Or is it something else?
Remember too that a messy, difficult relationship can eclipse more fundamental, individual problems, and it can be difficult to separate the two. So I'll gently suggest that you think about how much of your unhappiness is due to your husband, how much might be due to some more individual issue — and how much your unhappiness may be exacerbated by the stress of maintaining this affair. The thing is: Your husband is not really why you're cheating, is he? He's not making you cheat. You have to take responsibility for that choice and think about how cheating might be making you less present in your relationship, and how to do the real work repairing your marriage requires.
Do you feel empty because you've fallen out of love with him and know, deep down, that the relationship has run its course?  Or is there another cause — depression, anxiety, personal demons — for your unhappiness? For your cheating?
Sometimes, another person really can make us miserable. But one of the scariest things about life is that, sometimes, nobody's to blame for the dark times and empty feelings. We can get stuck in ruts without knowing why, and sometimes there is no reason at all. Regardless, when we go looking for a cause for our unhappiness, we often blame it on the person closest to us, no matter how much they care for us, even if, sometimes, there's no guilty party or easy fix. Sometimes, life is just brutally hard, especially when you've got four kids to raise.
My only practical advice for you is to think deeply about yourself — not as an unhappy wife, but as a woman. (I hope you're also talking this through with good friends and family, or a therapist.) Put the marriage and husband aside for a second. Sit with yourself. You say you "have an emptiness that he can't seem to fill." I suppose it's a scary thought, but it's at least worth asking: Can anyone but you fill that emptiness?
How do I tell my boyfriend his (uncircumcised) penis doesn't smell all that great, without hurting his feelings, or making sex or oral awkward?Sorry, but there's not a particularly subtle way to inform your boyfriend that he's got skunk junk. If it reeks, you must speak. If it smells, you must tell.
You don't have to be mean to get him to clean, but if his scent overpowers, tell him he must shower. Say, "Honey, when I go down on you, it's hotter when you smell fresh and clean."
You don't have to wrinkle your nose and tell him he's nasty to get your point across. Stress what turns you on (cleanliness) and he'll understand the implication of what turns you off (nasty-ass junk). A gentle nudge and a bar of soap should do it. Warm, damp environments breed bacteria, so tell him to dry off well — and maybe even show him this guide to keeping your junk odor-free.
It will be awkward, but the conversation will pass. If he knows that bathing properly will lead to more sex, my guess is he'll be inspired to keep himself squeaky clean. Finally, on the rare chance that a shower isn't enough, tell him to visit his doctor: It could be a bacterial infection, or even a symptom of an STI.
My boyfriend broke up with me in December, and we got back together in January. However, we found out later that while we weren't together, he got his ex-girlfriend pregnant. She decided to keep the baby (against his and my wishes), and the closer it gets to the due date, the closer they get. He tells me he loves me and he's not worried about our relationship, and I'm totally on board to be with him and the baby, but I'm so terrified he's going to leave me to be with her. She is no good for him emotionally and is not stable enough to even have this baby, but I guess that never stopped him from having sex with her. I told him after we found out that if he ever had sex with her again, it would be the one thing I could never forgive and would leave him, and I want to believe he loves me and wants to be with me through all this, but I'm terrified of what might change in the future.No doubt, this is a tough situation that will change your future. It sounds like this other woman is a handful, but she's going to be a part of your boyfriend's life now. He's going to be a father, and that's going to come with some level of responsibility — and some ongoing drama for both of you.
I think you were absolutely right to set a firm limit: Mess around with this woman again and I'll leave you. Perfect. Now he knows that there will be consequences if he cheats. There's honestly not much else you can do but to continue to communicate your feelings clearly.
As you move toward the birthdate of this child, it's going to be tough and stressful on your relationship. Your boyfriend will be in much more regular contact with his ex, and he will need your support as he negotiates a tough relationship. You and your boyfriend need to be very clear about how this child will affect your relationship. Will the child eventually be spending time with you? What role will he take in this child's life? You say that you're terrified to think of what might happen in the future, and I think that fear must be intense right now because so very much is unknown. Talk to him about the practicalities: How will this change your everyday relationship?
I'd suggest being just as direct about the rest of your relationship. I know you're scared. Since insecurities and fears grow in the dark, keep shining a light on whatever worries you. Talk through all of your expectations to make sure you're on the same page: commitment, marriage, kids, money, whatever. Keep talking about what scares you and keep telling him what you need. Hopefully, he'll keep proving that he deserves your love.










"His Girlfriend Just Sent Me A Facebook Message" What Should I Do?


The last time ladyincake saw her former friend with benefits, she thought their relationship had run its course. They live in different countries, after all, and only saw each other when they were in the same city briefly. Recently, she decided casual hookups weren't really for her, and she moved on. No damage done—or so she thought.






Then, she received an unexpected Facebook message. "Today, I got a message from a girl saying that she knows it's weird, but wanted to know how I knew him," she told Reddit. "She said she has been in a relationship with him for four years. That would mean that our time together overlapped." Uh oh.
Her instinct is that she wouldn't be a home-wrecker by ratting him out because he's the one who sealed the relationship's fate. She's a bit worried that if she stirs the pot, he could use nudes she's sent him against her, though.
Should she tell her former fling's girlfriend that he cheated? Or is that the couple's business and theirs alone? Here's what Reddit said:
"Wouldn't you want to know your BF of four years was a cheating piece of sh*t? It sounds like she already suspects something was up or maybe is having doubts now that marriage might be on the table. As you said, you're not ruining his relationship by telling her. He already did it by lying to you and cheating on her." —TeslasCurrentAlt
"You should confirm how you know the guy to the girlfriend. Leave emotions out of it. Outline dates and give her the facts. Then just leave it at that and move on. You are right, he ruined his own relationship. You have nothing to do with his bad actions because you didn't know she existed. She deserves to know so that she can confront him and leave appropriately." —pregsthethrowaway
"I would reply, 'Oh FML, I thought he was single and we met at X place and have hooked up on and off over this many years. I'm so sorry that you've been cheated on, and I swear I didn't know. Ugh.'" —coffee_goddess
"I normally tell people not to get involved in the relationships of other people. But since this woman is asking, you should tell her." —Julevict
"If he has nudes of you with your face, I would just drop it. In 99 percent of cases, it's better to tell, but in this case, you really have no idea who this guy is or what he would do with those if he finds out you told." —little-capybara

What do you think? Should she tell this woman the truth or just stay out of the situation?









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